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צפייה בגרסה מלאה : עזרה באבחון תקלה במזגן + הפניה לבעל מקצוע אמין



adiavisar
13-10-17, 09:16
אז ככה,

הרכב: סוזוקי גרנד ויטארה 2010.
לפני כמה ימים המזגן שבק חיים ואודה על עזרה באבחון התקלה.
כאשר לוחצים על מתג הפעלת המזגן נראה כאילו הכל תקין חוץ מהקטע החשוב של הזרמת אויר אל תוך הרכב. כאשר פתחתי מכסה מנוע רואים שרצועת המזגן נכנסת לפעולה כאשר מפעילים את המזגן המזגן מתוך הרכב אך המדחס עצמו לא נכנס לפעולה ואל תוך הרכב לא נכנס אויר מתפחי האיוורור. חשוב לציין שבעת נסיעה בכביש מהיר, אם מבטלים את פעולת הסירקולציה כן נכנס אויר קר לרכב, אבל די דרדלה...
לא התחלתי לשחק בפיוזים כי, כמו שכתבתי, רצועת המזגן כן נכנסת לפעולה כאשר מדיקים את המזגן (אני צודק?), האם יש תקווה שמדובר בתקלת חשמל זולה יחסית? האם הלך המדחס? (4500 שקל + מע"מ במכשירי תנועה...).
בקיצור, לעזרתכם בשלבי אבחון התקלה אודה כמו גם על הפניה לבעל מקצוע אמין עם מחירים הוגנים באזור תל אביב והמרכז


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opl
13-10-17, 10:53
לא מכיר את הרכב הזה ספציפית אבל - כשאתה מפעיל איוורור ללא מזגן יש זרימה? אם לא - תתחיל מהמפוח הפנימי, לרוב יושב מתחת לדש בורד ומעל רגלי הנוסע.
גע בצנרת המזגן החשופה באם יש כזו, אם היא קפואה לאחר כמה דקות של עבודה תבין שככל הנראה המדחס תקין

boaz avrahami
13-10-17, 11:39
לא מכיר את האוטו אבל משהו במונחים שלך לא ברור לי.

מה הכוונה ברצועה שנכנסת לפעולה?

הרצועה אמורה להסתובב כל הזמן כשהמנוע עובד.
הפעלת המזגן למעשה מפעילה מצמד ( אלקטרו מגנטי) שמחבר בין הגלגל רצועה החיצוני על המדחס לבין החלק הפנימי של אותו הגלגל שמחובר לציר המדחס.
ככה שולטים על הפעלה וכיבוי המדחס.
לאור זאת, או שאני לא מבין את ההסבר שלך או שאתה לא מבין איך העסק עובד אבל התאור שלך מצביע שהמדחס לא עובד.

אם המדחס לבדו לא היה פועל היו כמה כיוונים לבדוק אבל אם מצרפים את העובדה שהמפוח אוורור לא עובד יחד עם המדחס אני הייתי מהמר על פיוז או ריליי ראשי ששיך למיזוג אוויר.


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adiavisar
13-10-17, 11:42
לא מכיר את הרכב הזה ספציפית אבל - כשאתה מפעיל איוורור ללא מזגן יש זרימה? אם לא - תתחיל מהמפוח הפנימי, לרוב יושב מתחת לדש בורד ומעל רגלי הנוסע.
גע בצנרת המזגן החשופה באם יש כזו, אם היא קפואה לאחר כמה דקות של עבודה תבין שככל הנראה המדחס תקין

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opl
13-10-17, 11:59
אז החשוד הוא מפוח או מפסק או משהו על הקו. לרוב - מפסק. בכל המהירויות אין תגובה?

boaz avrahami
13-10-17, 12:09
אם זה המפוח לבדו אז לרוב זה הנגד


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opl
13-10-17, 12:19
שזה בעצם המפסק לא?

adiavisar
13-10-17, 12:24
אז החשוד הוא מפוח או מפסק או משהו על הקו. לרוב - מפסק. בכל המהירויות אין תגובה?

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boaz avrahami
13-10-17, 12:24
לא מכיר את האוטו הספציפי.
אצלי בג׳יפ זה ממש חלק נפרד ולא זול

ומבדיקה ברשת ברפרוף, נראה שגם אצלו זה נפרד.
אבל רצוי להתחיל מבדיקות בסיסיות כמו פיוזים ולאבחן מה בדיוק עובד ומה לא.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171013/c83df654d9fb7dc159cc1d0e54feaf54.jpg

Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ 98 V8
Honda TRX300EX

Asaf-a
13-10-17, 12:36
שאלות שלכאורה לא קשורות אבל כדאי שתוסיף האינפורמציה עקב מקרה מהעבר ב G.V שהתחיל עם סימפטומים מהמזגן:
האם הרכב מתחמם?
האם חסר נוזל קירור במיכל ההתפשטות?
האם מנוע 2400 או 2000?

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razzamataz
13-10-17, 12:37
כפי שרשמו מעליי
תחפש פיוז שנקרא Blower ו AC
בחלק מן הרכבים הנ"ל נמצא מתחת לדשבורד וחלק בתיבת הפיוזים ליד המנוע

avikkllk
13-10-17, 15:49
קרה לי. נלך לי המפוח בתוך הרכב הכל עבד כולל המערכת בת"א מנוע.

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נדב42
13-10-17, 16:04
פות"ש כתב שגם בלי הפעלת מזגן המפוח לא עובד, אז קודם כל זה לא קשור למזגן.

לגבי הנגד, בד"כ כשיש בו תקלה עדיין המהירות הגבוהה ביותר עובדת.

חפש את חיבור המתח למנוע והזן אליו 12 וולט ישיר. אם עובד - חפש את כבל/מפסק התקול, אם לא עובד - החלף או תקן את המנוע עצמו ...

avikkllk
13-10-17, 17:09
לי יש ויטרה 08
יש לי שרשור על המזגן.
לפני חודשיים בערך זה היה.
בדקו לי את המזגן עלה שזה או הנגד מהירויות או המפוח הבאתי נגד יד שנייה לבדיקה ולא עבד שיפצתי את המפוח הקיים החלפנו לו פחמים ונכון לעכשיו המזגן עובד חזק מאטד
בנוסף שהמזון של הויטרה עובד נורא חזק בלי כל קשר.

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adiavisar
13-10-17, 21:25
קודם כל, תודה רבה לכולם על העצות


לא מכיר את האוטו אבל משהו במונחים שלך לא ברור לי.

מה הכוונה ברצועה שנכנסת לפעולה?

הרצועה אמורה להסתובב כל הזמן כשהמנוע עובד.
הפעלת המזגן למעשה מפעילה מצמד ( אלקטרו מגנטי) שמחבר בין הגלגל רצועה החיצוני על המדחס לבין החלק הפנימי של אותו הגלגל שמחובר לציר המדחס.
ככה שולטים על הפעלה וכיבוי המדחס.
לאור זאת, או שאני לא מבין את ההסבר שלך או שאתה לא מבין איך העסק עובד אבל התאור שלך מצביע שהמדחס לא עובד.

אם המדחס לבדו לא היה פועל היו כמה כיוונים לבדוק אבל אם מצרפים את העובדה שהמפוח אוורור לא עובד יחד עם המדחס אני הייתי מהמר על פיוז או ריליי ראשי ששיך למיזוג אוויר.


Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ 98 V8
Honda TRX300EX
- אני אכן לא מבין - לכן פניתי לעזרת הפורום הנכבד


פות"ש כתב שגם בלי הפעלת מזגן המפוח לא עובד, אז קודם כל זה לא קשור למזגן.

לגבי הנגד, בד"כ כשיש בו תקלה עדיין המהירות הגבוהה ביותר עובדת.

חפש את חיבור המתח למנוע והזן אליו 12 וולט ישיר. אם עובד - חפש את כבל/מפסק התקול, אם לא עובד - החלף או תקן את המנוע עצמו ...
זה קצת מעבר לידע והיכולות הטכניות שלי.


כפי שרשמו מעליי
תחפש פיוז שנקרא Blower ו AC
בחלק מן הרכבים הנ"ל נמצא מתחת לדשבורד וחלק בתיבת הפיוזים ליד המנוע

בדקתי את שתי תיבות הפיוזים (גם בספר הרכב) - יש רק פיוז אחד הקשור למזגן, והוא שייך דווקא למדחס - נראה תקין

לי יש ויטרה 08
יש לי שרשור על המזגן.
לפני חודשיים בערך זה היה.
בדקו לי את המזגן עלה שזה או הנגד מהירויות או המפוח הבאתי נגד יד שנייה לבדיקה ולא עבד שיפצתי את המפוח הקיים החלפנו לו פחמים ונכון לעכשיו המזגן עובד חזק מאטד
בנוסף שהמזון של הויטרה עובד נורא חזק בלי כל קשר.

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נדב42
13-10-17, 22:34
זה קצת מעבר לידע והיכולות הטכניות שלי.


כמו גם על הפניה לבעל מקצוע אמין עם מחירים הוגנים באזור תל אביב והמרכז

השאלה היא אם אתה רוצה לפרק בעצמך וללמוד תוך כדי עבודה...

אם התשובה היא כן, תתחיל לחפש סרטונים ביוטיוב ...
אם לא, ההמלצה האישית שלי היא עמוס מזגנים בבני-ברק (03-579-8265). הוא לא הכי זול בתחום, אבל גם לא חמדן. והוא מקצועי וישר ולא יגבה ממך כספים על עבודות שאינן נחוצות. אה, והוא גם ג'יפאי,כלומר משלנו, ואאל"ט הבת שלו נוהגת בויטארה :)

avikkllk
14-10-17, 08:11
מה זה כל בכיתוב באנגלית הזה? רק אני רואה את זה?

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shachar
14-10-17, 09:20
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העתקה של לינק שהתחרבשה...

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boaz avrahami
14-10-17, 09:36
לאחרונה גם אני רואה את זה בטאפאטוק, לרוב אצל משתמשים ספציפיים


Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ 98 V8
Honda TRX300EX

avikkllk
14-10-17, 11:03
עשיתי את זה אצל חשמלאי שגר לידנו אני פשוט גר בצפון לא יודע אם רלוונטי עבורך.
לטעמי כל חשמלאי הגון שאתה סומך עליו יכול לעשות לך את זה.
המפוח עובד הרבה יותר טוב והרבה יותר חזק.
הייתי במוסך מורשה ואמרו לי לרכוש חדש ב550 שח
הלכתי לחשמל אי שלי שאמר שניתן לשפץ שיפוץ בעלות של קצת פחות מחצי והמזגן וגם אני מאושרים.

שהייתי מפעיל את המזגן כל המערכת הייתה עובדת כולל הכל פשוט לא זרק לי אוויר בתוך הרכב.

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אביב3
14-10-17, 19:42
כשאתה בעל מקצוע של תחום אחד , במקרה הזה מזגנים, לא מבין איך אתה מרשה לעצמך לטעות בדיאגנוסטיקה , להחליף נגד ואז להבין שמנוע המפוח זקוק לשיפוץ.
איך בעלי המקצוע האלה חיים עם עצמם?!!
(כנראה טןב מאוד ועם רווח גדול יותר ועדיין משום מה הלקוח מבסוט)
נ.ב בא כתגובה לתגובה המאושרת של avikkllk

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avikkllk
15-10-17, 07:12
וזה עוד היה במוסך מורשה.
חשמלאי פרטי וצנוע עזה מה שחברה מהוללת לא עושה.

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adiavisar
16-10-17, 12:55
לטובת עדכון וסגירת הנושא, הבעיה אכן הייתה בנגד של המפוח. הנגד תוקן( אפילו לא הוחלף...) אצל חשמלאי רכב( א.צ מאור ברמלה ( גילוי נאות: חבר של המשפחה)), בעלות של חצי 200 שקל.
תודה רבה למייעצים, פגעתם בול.

המשוטט
16-10-17, 14:31
לטובת עדכון וסגירת הנושא, הבעיה אכן הייתה בנגד של המפוח. הנגד תוקן( אפילו לא הוחלף...) אצל חשמלאי רכב( א.צ מאור ברמלה ( גילוי נאות: חבר של המשפחה)), בעלות של חצי 200 שקל.
תודה רבה למייעצים, פגעתם בול.מנסיון של פעם אחת איתו כלקוח מזדמן לחלוטין אכן מדובר בבעל מקצוע שמכבד את עצמו

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avikkllk
16-10-17, 15:42
שמח שהצלחנו לעזור והבעיה נפתרה [emoji5]

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