צפייה בגרסה מלאה : F 350 2008

מאיר רוטברג
27-02-07, 15:08
The 2008 Ford Super DutyRoad Test Review
F250, F350 and F450

If you think that the Ford Super Duty pickup has no place in a publication called familycar.com, then y'all ain't been to Texas, which is responsible for 15% of the sales of Ford F-Series, many of which are used as primary family haulers. So when Ford invited me to the Lone Star State for a January preview of the newest heavy duty models, I leaped at the chance to view their latest creation, while escaping the cold of a New York winter. Don't I wish...

When I left JFK airport, it was a balmy 50o F at a time when winter normally plunges temperatures into the 30's. Ironically, when I arrived in south Texas--four hours later than planned--I had to brave the ice storms that blasted San Antonio airport and forced the closing of numerous highways. But despite nature's relentless assaults, the folks at Ford gave us the wheel-time we craved by finding alternative roads with a dogged persistence that gives new meaning to the slogan, "Built Ford Tough!"

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/FordSuperDuty/Images/Dash-md.jpgBy early afternoon, the Ford team had me behind the wheel of a Ford F-250 King Ranch with a 6.4 liter Diesel engine. Aside from sitting high up and able to see far down the road, this King Ranch hardly felt like a work truck at all. This beast was as smooth and quiet as a passenger car and a good one at that.

What diesel? You just couldn't tell it was a diesel engine unless you were standing outside with the hood up and listening closely. There was almost no diesel clatter. Acceleration was also smooth and quiet. If you stepped down hard on the throttle from a dead stop, you had to be careful not to get whiplash. That is what happens when you tromp on an unloaded pickup with 650 pounds feet of torque at your disposal. This powerplant is one of three engine choices for the Super Duty line.

Once under way, I noticed very little wind noise even with the large trailer towing mirrors that were on this vehicle. Those mirrors even had a power telescoping feature, which would allow me to see past a wide trailer had I been towing one. I noticed very little change in the level of wind noise when I tried extending them. They even had a power fold feature for navigating in close quarters.

Road noise was also very well controlled. If you wanted to use the truck as a passenger car, you wouldn't need to make any excuses. But then, this is a truck, and people buy trucks for specific reasons, whether it is for carrying heavy loads, pulling large trailers or going off-road to get building supplies to a remote job site.

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/FordSuperDuty/Images/LeftFrontMud-md.jpgI did not get the opportunity to take the Super Duty to the off-road events due to road closures that were caused by the ice storms, but a colleague of mine, Paul Weissler, was there the day before the big freeze set in and was able to get down and dirty (literally) piloting the Super Duty through all kinds of terrain.

The torrential downpours of the previous couple of days made for a challenging driving experience turning the off road course into a giant mud hole. The folks from Ford made sure that all the journalists in the previous group were protected from the goop by raiding all the department stores in the area and purchasing waterproof hip boots for everyone.

Paul writes for a number of publications including Popular Mechanics, Motor Magazine and Automotive Engineering among others. He was happy to provide us with his impressions of the Super Duty doing what it was meant to do.

Off-road, the part-time 4WD system didn’t even breathe hard. Paul reports; "I drove it in 4W High through a backhoe-scalloped and rutted area that would have stalled every one of those 'car-like' vehicles, and all I had to do was modulate the throttle to keep going."

Paul also drove an F-450 4x4 tied to a 20,000 lb. house trailer. He was able to handle it surprisingly well (of course, the F-450 can pull a lot more than that—up to 24,500 lbs., or up to 24,000 lbs. with 4x4). The Super Duty has a trailer brake controller which includes a control panel built right into the dash. This controller provides electronic integration of trailer and regular brakes, and includes ABS functionality. This system makes it as easy to stop smoothly as the diesel engine does at pulling away.

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/FordSuperDuty/Images/TailgateStep-md.jpgIf you’re one of the not-so-tall types, the Super Duty with optional 20-inch wheels can be difficult to enter without running boards or an assist step (one of those swing-out devices that can be added on at any time). But access to the truck bed is easy if you get the optional step-up, which is built into the tailgate. Just lower the tailgate, pull the step (which comes out and down) and raise a grab rod. Put a foot on the step, grab the rod and you’re in the bed—great idea. Ford also is offering an optional two-section truck bed extender, which doesn’t restrict loading the bed when the tailgate is up –another nice feature.

The front bumper has built-in “steps,” actually U-shaped protrusions from the bumper (one on each side), that enable you to step up to do the routine maintenance checks without getting on a ladder.

The Super-Duty is sold primarily as a diesel (about 70%) for the combination of torque and fuel economy, but you also can get a 5.4-liter V-8 or 6.8-liter V-10 (Paul's attitude—spend for the diesel). For those less familiar with “Super Duty,” the classification is called “heavy-duty,” or over 8500 lbs. GVW (gross vehicle weight).

The transmission used with the diesel is a five-speed automatic, and it’s available with power takeoff, something Ford introduced on the previous generation Super Duty in 1999. The standard transmission offering is still a six-speed manual (with first gear a super-low). But these days only 5% of buyers order the manual, a simple matter of fewer young truck drivers comfortable with it. GM reportedly is dropping the manual on their new heavy-duty models.

Paul also thought that the ride was amazingly smooth for a heavy-duty truck, and the interior reflected everything Ford learned about making a truck cabin look good. Yes, it has shapes that give it an “industrial strength” look, but nice materials and no exposed fasteners, so you get the look of craftsmanship. The luxury leather interior of the King Ranch model is dazzling. Journalists gaped at it, and Paul thought, “Boy, would I like living room furniture that looked as good as that.”

The Ford Super Duty is offered in three cab styles, two bed lengths and four trim levels. As mentioned earlier, there are three engines to choose from as well as three capacities. All this to allow you to tailor a truck to your exact needs and wants.


Let's start with the cabs. There is the Regular Cab, which has room for two or three people depending on whether you opt for a bench seat or buckets, the SuperCab and Crew Cab both have two rows of seats for 5 or 6 passengers with the Crew Cab offering additional rear seat legroom.

The two bed lengths are 6.75 feet and 8 feet. All cab styles are available with the 8 foot bed. The SuperCab and Crew Cab are also available with the shorter bed as well.

The base trim level is XL. This is the work truck. If you don't add any option packages, it will come with crank-up windows, manually adjustable outside mirrors, no air conditioning and black, full length vinyl floor covering along with a HD vinyl, full bench seat. You also get a basic AM/FM radio with 2 speakers. The base engine is the V8 with a 6 speed manual transmission and rear wheel drive. The price for this bare bones truck? $22,380. This is a bargain for a person or a company that needs a rugged, high capacity work truck.

Step up to an XLT and you get air conditioning, power windows and door locks, power outside mirrors, cruise control and a 40/20/40 split bench seat with center armrest, cupholder, and storage. You also get a premium sound system with a CD/MP3 player and 4-speakers. The starting price for an F-250 XLT is $26,065 for the Regular Cab model.

The FX4 is only available in a 4x4 configuration and adds remote keyless entry and larger wheels with all-terrain tires. The price for a SuperCab F-250 FX4 begins at $33,625.

The Lariat is the luxury cruiser of the bunch. This trim level adds18" premium forged polished aluminum wheels, dual zone electronic automatic temperature control, rearview, electrochromic self-dimming mirrors, power driver and front passenger seats, front, premium leather seating surfaces 40/20/40 split bench with center armrest, cupholder, and storage, and color coordinated leather-wrapped steering wheel with redundant audio and climate controls. A SuperCab Lariat will set you back $31,785 or $34,755 for a 4x4.

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/FordSuperDuty/Images/FrontSeats-md.jpgThe King Ranch is a special option package for the Lariat Crew Cab and has a special interior and paint treatment. The Lariat Crew Cab with the King Ranch package starts at $38,890. A fully decked out King Ranch can reach $60,000 when all available options are factored in .

Engine choices include the standard 5.4 liter Triton V8 which has 300 horsepower and 365 lb-ft of torque, a 6.8 liter Triton V10 with 362 horsepower and 457 lb-ft of torque, and of course, the 6.4 liter Power Stroke Diesel V8 with 350 horsepower and a stump-pulling 650 lb-ft of torque.

The Diesel will be the most popular choice and for good reason. Diesels are known for their low speed pulling power and efficient use of fuel, desirable qualities in a work truck. On the down side, diesels have always been known for noisy operation and belching black smoke at the slightest provocation. Certainly not what you want in these days of environmental consciousness.

Ford has come up with an answer to these concerns with the cleanest diesel ever to grace an American pickup truck. This engine is the first in the segment to offer Clean Diesel Technology, which provides an increase in performance with a sharp decrease in particulates and emissions. It is also one of the quietest diesel engines I have ever experienced.

Sequential turbochargers coupled with advanced engine electronics and software help improve off-the-line performance and allow the engine to have up to a 97 percent reduction in particulate emissions, which makes it as clean as a modern gasoline engine. High-pressure, common rail fuel system uses precision of Piezo-electric injectors to deliver quiet operation without compromising performance or efficiency.

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/FordSuperDuty/Images/Engine-md.jpgThe series sequential turbochargers work in tandem with the small variable geometry turbocharger coming on at low rpm to provide extra boost at take-off, while the larger fixed turbo joins the smaller turbo to boost power through the middle of the torque curve. As speed increases, the larger turbo takes over.

A 6 speed manual transmission is available with the gasoline powered V8 for the few that want it, but most people will opt for the 5 speed TorqShift automatic overdrive. The automatic is the only transmission that will be available with the Diesel or the V10 gasoline engine.

This is the first time that Ford is offering a fully finished truck in the super heavy duty F-450 platform. Prior to this, if you wanted an F-450, you had to buy the chassis and cab and have an outside company add a box or pickup bed. The F450 has the capacity to pull a trailer of up to 24,500 pounds when properly equipped.

The Ford Super Duty is a big, no-nonsense truck for people who work hard and play hard. It can be dressed for rough work, for a trip to to the opera, or anything in-between. The Super Duty is an important vehicle to Ford's Way-Forward plan and represents a substantial percentage of their profitable truck market.
The Ford F Series, which includes the F-150 as well as the Super Duty line is the best selling pickup in America. Heck, it's the best selling vehicle of any kind in the US. Ford needed to hit a home run with the 2008 Ford Super Duty, and after my hands-on look, I believe they have.

מאיר רוטברג
27-02-07, 15:09

2008 Ford Super Duty Specifications

Mechanical5.4L Triton V86.8L Triton V106.4L Power Stroke Diesel V-8Engine Type3 Valve per cylinder w variable cam timing, cast iron block and aluminum heads3 Valve per cylinder w variable cam timing, cast iron block and aluminum headsHigh-pressure common rail OHV, 4 valves per cylinder w. cast iron block and headsValve arrangementSOHC 24-valve with Variable Valve TimingSOHC 30 valve with Variable Valve TimingOHV 32-valveHorsepower300 @ 5,000 rpm362 @ 4,750 rpm350 @ 3,000 rpmTorque (lb.-ft. @ rpm)365 @ 3,750457 @ 3,250650 @ 2,000Recommended FuelRegularRegularB5 (5 percent biodiesel) Transmission type (Std.)
Transmission type (Opt.)6 speed manual
5-speed automatic5-speed automatic5-speed automaticDrive Type (Std.)
Drive Type (Opt.)
Rear-wheel drive
4-wheel Drive

Chassis and Body
Cab Style, Pickup Box Style and Drive System

Regular CabSuperCabCrew Cab 8.0' Bed6-3/4' Bed8.0' Bed6-3/4' Bed8.0' Bed 4x24x44x24x44x24x44x24x44x24x4Wheelbase1 37.0"137.0"141.8"141.8"158.0"158.0"156.2"156.2"172.4"172.4"Overall Length227.0"227.0"231.8"231.8"248.0"248.0"246.2"246.2"262.4"262.4"Overall Width (std)
with DRW79.9
95.5"Cargo Box Length98.0"98.0"81.8"81.8"98.0"98.0"81.8"81.8"98.0"98.0"Bed Width Between Wheelhouses (max.)50.9"50.9"50.9"50.9"50.9"50.9"50.9"50.9"50.9"50.9"Inside Box Height20.1"20.1"20.1"20.1"20.1"20.1"20.1"20.1"20.1"20.1"Fuel Capacity (F-250)
(F-350 & F-450)
19 gal aux tank optional38.0 gal
40 gal38.0 gal
40 gal30.5 gal
40 gal30.5 gal
40 gal38.0 gal
40 gal38.0 gal
40 gal30.5 gal
40 gal30.5 gal
40 gal38.0 gal
40 gal38.0 gal
40 galSeating Capacity2/32/35/65/65/65/65/65/65/65/6Turning circle,
curb-to-curb (ft.)47.746.149.147.554.152.3653.551.858 .556.5
F250/350/450 Super Duty Pickup Weight and Towing

Base Curb Weight F250 SRW5675613559256385605065106100656062256 685F350 SRW5813627360636523618866486238669863656 823F350 DRW61256585--65006960--82908687F450 DRW--------82908687Max payload F250 SRW3130286030702810315028803100283031702 910F350 SRW4220422040404070421041404160409042304 170F350 DRW56705410--569054305640538057205250F450 DRW--------61205720Max GVWR F250 SRW9400960096009800980010,000980010,0001 0,00010,000F350 SRW10,70011,00010,80011,20011,00011,4001 1,00011,40011,20011,500F350 DRW12,40012,600--12,80013,00012,80013,00013,00013,000F450 DRW--------14,50014,500Max GCWR5.4 liter V86.8 liter V106.4 liter Diesel3.73 axle16,000-23,5004.10 axle18,50021,50023,5004.30 axle-23,00029,0004.88 axle--33,000Max TowingF-250/F-350 SRWF-350 DRWF-450 DRWConventional weight carrying5000 (2268)6000 (2722)6000Conventional weight distributing12,500 (5670)15,000 (6804)16,0005th wheel/Goose Neck16,800 (F-350 only)18.70024,500

Standard Equipment

5.4L 3-Valve SOHC EFI Triton modular V8 engine

6-speed manual transmission

Stationary Elevated Idle Control

12.5K Built Ford Tough® Trailer Hitch Receiver

Anti-lock brakes

Trailer Tow Package

Halogen sealed beam headlamps

Black, manual fold-away mirrors

Spare tire, wheel, lock and carrier

Removable tailgate assist with key lock

Full length vinyl floor covering, front, HD vinyl

Full bench with recline seats

Black vinyl steering wheel

Driver and passenger air bags

Passenger air bag deactivation switch

Height adjustable seat belts

17" Argent painted steel wheels

AM/FM stereo/digital clock & 2-speakers

XLT Adds...:

Dual beam jewel effect headlamps

black, manual fold-away, power glass mirrors

17" chromed steel wheels

manual air conditioning

premium electronic AM/FM stereo w/digital clock, single CD/MP3 player and 4-speakers

cruise control

power windows and locks

40/20/40 split bench seats with center armrest, cupholder, and storage

black vinyl with tilt steering wheel

SecuriLock® Anti-Theft Ignition

FX4 Adds...:
(4x4 only)

transfer case and fuel tank

fog lamps

18" premium chromed steel wheels with all-terrain tires

black wrapped with tilt steering wheel

Advanced Security Group includes autolock, autolamp, remote keyless entry, and wired keypad

Lariat Adds...:

18" premium forged polished aluminum wheels

Dual zone electronic automatic temperature control

Rearview, electrochromic self-dimming mirrors

Power driver and front passenger seats

Premium leather seating surfaces

40/20/40 split bench with center armrest, cupholder, and storage

Color coordinated leather-wrapped steering wheel with redundant audio and climate controls

Major Available Options
Depending on model. Some options are only available as part of a package. See your Ford dealer for details

5 speed automatic transmission

Electronic-shift-on-the-fly 4x4

Air conditioning

Cruise control

Rapid-heat supplemental cab heater

Tilt steering wheel

Heated seats

Power seats

Driver's memory package

All-weather floor mats

Adjustable gas/brake pedals

Manual sliding rear window

Reverse vehicle aid sensor

Privacy glass

Bodyside molding

Lower accent two-tone paint

Power slide moonroof

Navigation system

Rear seat DVD entertainment system

Universal garage door opener

Upfitter switches

Traction control

Manual telescoping trailer tow mirrors

TowCommand integrated trailer brake controller

Transmission power take-off provision

Running boards

Roof clearance lights

4x4 Off Road package

XL Décor group

King Ranch package (Lariat only)

Camper package

Heavy service suspension package

Snow plow prep package

Stowable bed extender

Tailgate step

18" Forged Polished Aluminum wheels

18" Premium Chromed Steel wheels

18" Premium Forged Polished Aluminum wheels

20" Premium Polished Forged Aluminum wheels

Premium electronic AM/FM stereo/single CD/MP3 player/clock with 4 speakers

Premium electronic AM/FM stereo/in-dash 6-disc CD/MP3 players/clock with 4 speakers

Audiophile AM/FM stereo/in-dash 6-disc CD/MP3 player/clock with 8 speakers and subwoofer

Satellite radio

For more information on the Ford Super Duty, visit fordvehicles.c (http://www.fordvehicles.com/Trucks/2008superduty/)

27-02-07, 15:13
אז אתה שמח או מבואס שקנית מודל 2007? :twisted:

מאיר רוטברג
27-02-07, 15:18
אז אתה שמח או מבואס שקנית מודל 2007? :twisted:
ביטלתי את ההזמנה או יותר נכון ביקשתי להמתין למודל 2008

אז אתה שמח עבורי או מבואס:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ??

מאיר רוטברג
27-02-07, 15:20

אשתמש במילים של דרור
במדינה הזמנית שלנו לא ניתן לייבא בייבוא אישי רכב מעל 4500 ק"ג


אבו שפם
27-02-07, 16:46

תאר לך סיטואציה ....

אני עומד ברמזור בדרך למדבר....

על ידי נעמד F350 מפלצתי....

שכמובן בפתיחה...עובר אותי בשניה....

ומה רואות עיני????

(נו מי ממשיך מכאן????)

שפם אמרתי לך כבר מליון פעמים....
2 כחולים על הבוקר
1ירקרק ו 1 סגול בצהוריים
ואת הקוקטיל של 3 צהובים, 2 אדומים, 1 פחם, ו3 כפות מהסירופ...

ככה אתה דואג שאף אחד לא יגלה עד כמה הבעיה אצלך קשה....


28-02-07, 01:14

אני הייתי מבטל, ומזמין כזה....


28-02-07, 08:33
מתאים לי(F650)....חבל שאני לא סובל את פורד.

מאיר, אל תעשה טעות, לא לקנות Alpha model
קח את ה07, או חכה שנה שנתיים

כל מודל חדש זה אותו סיפור.....לוקח לפורד בערך שנתיים לתקן להם את הבאגים.

מאיר רוטברג
28-02-07, 08:55
מתאים לי(F650)....חבל שאני לא סובל את פורד.

מאיר, אל תעשה טעות, לא לקנות Alpha model
קח את ה07, או חכה שנה שנתיים

כל מודל חדש זה אותו סיפור.....לוקח לפורד בערך שנתיים לתקן להם את הבאגים.

החל מינואר פורד התחילה לעשות (בשקט) ריקולים על המנוע , עד שזה יגיע לארץ יעבור "קצת זמן"