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    ΰιξιιμ δϊχαμ αζε δμωεο:
    Hello,
    I am a army car enthusiast from Czech republic. I am currently restoring Jeep M38A1/CJ5 and i want to paint it and mark it like a model from Six days war used by IDF.
    Could you please give me information about the exact color and marking of the models used in the war by the engineer unit, or optionally any other unit which used this model ? It would help me tremendously with my project.
    Also looking for some specific parts i mark them on attached photo if you have some contact to somebody who can help me i will be really happy.
    Looking forward to your answer.
    Jan Sefcak.

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    ιω: β'ιτ CJ-7 1979 | διιμχρ 2015
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    αψιψϊ ξηγμ ϊβεαδ: ωΰμεϊ ξξωτυ β'ιτιν φ'λι: τψθιν θλπιιν ωμ ριχρ ξωωϊ διξιν

    ςμ ψεα δωΰμεϊ ψΰιϊι ωδεΰ ςπδ αςφξε.
    ςμ δριξεο αϊξεπδ αφγ ιξιο - ξπωΰ μπψ ςωο. ΰτωψ μψΰεϊ ΰϊ πψ δςωο πςευ αϊεωαϊ ωμε.
    δξχμς δεΰ λξεαο 0.3 / ξχμ"τ... ('ξχμς τμεβϊι') χεθψ 7.62X 51 ξ"ξ 'πΰθ"ε' ρψθ αγ ΰε ωψωιψ ξϊλϊ ςμ λπδ ςν ξπωΰ αφγ μΰψβζ τςεμδ.
    δΰμεπχδ ξεπηϊ ςμ ωϊι αψλιιν αφεψϊ 'L' ςν ψφεςεϊ διγεχ μτϊιηδ ξδιψδ.
    ςεγ ΰφιιο λι πιϊο μψΰεϊ ααιψεψ ωχργϊε ωμ δξτχγ δρξμ αϊξεπδ διξπιϊ ΰιπδ ψλερδ (!) εςμ ωπι δμιφπιν αβ'ιτ δωξΰμι ΰπι αλμμ μΰ ψεφδ μγαψ.

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    δξρεξο αςιβεμ ζδ ξπωΰ μπψ ςωο.
    δωιξεω διδ μξιρεκ ηι"ψ ΰε θπχιν αφμιηϊ ωθη τϊεη / ξςαψ δλψηι.

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    μωεΰμιν μξδ φψικ απεβς μψλα - "μΰ φψικ - ΰπι ψεφδ"

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    On the passenger side cowl, marked in red is a smoke canister, "smoke candle" in hebrew, it is larger than a standard hand thrown smoke grenade.
    Also on the passenger side, a folded stretcher.
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    ΰπι ηεωα ωξςαψ μζιδει δημχιν, δεΰ αςιχψ ξητω ξιωδε ωιελμ μξλεψ με ΰεϊν.

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    πξψεγ, ςλωιε ΰϊδ φψικ μβψεν με μδψων μτεψεν εμμξεγ ςαψιϊ
    ρξεψΰι->ρξεψΰι ΰψεκ->βψΰπγ ειθψδ->τΰβ'ψε Q->δΰπθψ->Quigley 4x4 Chevy Van

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    ιω αηεψ αβεμιρ ωιω με βν ωμγεϊ εβν ΰιαζεψ ψμεεπθι.
    ΰπι ψλωϊι ξξπε αριρι λπδ ωμ ξΰβ ελιρΰ ΰφ"ΰ ςν ξϊχο μχπδ ψζψαι
    ΰαμ αωαιμ ζδ ΰπι ηεωω ωδεΰ ιΰμυ μαοΰ μΰ"ι

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    μωεΰμιν μξδ φψικ απεβς μψλα - "μΰ φψικ - ΰπι ψεφδ"

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    αψιψϊ ξηγμ Komentář: Otázky českého renovátora džípu: Šestidenní šestidenní šestidenní šestidenníix

    Hello. Thank you all for the advice. I joined the forum. Hebrew is hard for me . I would like to buy the parts in the picture. I will be very happy for any help. Advice on colors and markings, parts or equipment for the jeep. My jeep project is at the beginning. Honza Kladno Czechia


    ωμεν. ϊεγδ μλεμλν ςμ δςφεϊ. δφθψτϊι μτεψεν. ςαψιϊ χωδ μι . αψφεπι μχπεϊ ΰϊ δημχιν ωαϊξεπδ. ΰπι ΰωξη ξΰεγ μλμ ςζψδ. ιιςευ μβαι φαςιν εριξεπιν, ημχιν ΰε φιεγ μβ'ιτ. τψειχθ δβ'ιτιν ωμι πξφΰ αδϊημδ. δεπζδ χμγπε φ'λιδ

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    φιθεθ πλϊα αξχεψ ςμ ιγι Jan φτιδ αδεγςδ
    Hello. Thank you all for the advice. I joined the forum. Hebrew is hard for me . I would like to buy the parts in the picture. I will be very happy for any help. Advice on colors and markings, parts or equipment for the jeep. My jeep project is at the beginning. Honza Kladno Czechia


    ωμεν. ϊεγδ μλεμλν ςμ δςφεϊ. δφθψτϊι μτεψεν. ςαψιϊ χωδ μι . αψφεπι μχπεϊ ΰϊ δημχιν ωαϊξεπδ. ΰπι ΰωξη ξΰεγ μλμ ςζψδ. ιιςευ μβαι φαςιν εριξεπιν, ημχιν ΰε φιεγ μβ'ιτ. τψειχθ δβ'ιτιν ωμι πξφΰ αδϊημδ. δεπζδ χμγπε φ'λιδ
    Hebrew hard for us too
    Welcome!

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    :Israely military vehicles are painted using this

    https://tambour.co.il/product/%D7%A1...2%D7%A4%D7%A8/

    I don't know what the corresponding RAL code is. the color as you can see in pictures is kind of grayish, it's not classis sand yellow.

    The unofficlal name is 'kaka color'.

    you don't need google translate to figure out the meaning of 'kaka'


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    Israeli Defense Force Paint Color Late '60s

    ΰρσ.

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    L*=46.6
    a*=2.0
    b*=10.2

    ΰρσ.

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    αψιψϊ ξηγμ ϊβεαδ: ωΰμεϊ ξξωτυ β'ιτιν φ'λι: τψθιν ηιφεπιιν ωμ ριχρ ξωωϊ διξιν

    Found this in Asaf's link -
    http://idfmodelling.free.fr/article01.html


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    ώ‪+97254-885-4855
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    This is Yurai's phone He has some of military junk in the yard 972 +972 50-401-2351

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    I'm renovating a newer military jeep. m151a2 so I sent the unofficial sources up. I have an Israeli friend who lives in the Czech Republic. Who has traveled with me for many years as a jeep owner in Israel. I talked to him and he will be happy to help you with related media and logistics. Send me your phone number and email to +972544608193 and I will make the contact

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    αψιψϊ ξηγμ ϊβεαδ: ωΰμεϊ ξξωτυ β'ιτιν φ'λι: τψθιν ηιφεπιιν ωμ ριχρ ξωωϊ διξιν

    Thank you very much everyone, you are great. All this will help me a lot. I will try to inquire about the color at tambour.co.il. I just don't understand the translation. Is the paint from tambour one-component (I paint the base and then this) or two-component (I paint the base and I have to mix this with the activator)? In the attached picture what is the marking (axes?) Boxes for ammunition in the front panel is M2A1 (https://www.zbrane-kspol.cz/box-na-n...2a1-pouzity/)? thanks a lot
    Jan

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    ιΰο
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    This is the correct picture:



    https://www.zbrane-kspol.cz/box-na-n...-m2a1-pouzity/
    (Your link was broken).

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    What you refer to as the "axes" marking seems to me to be the unit marking.
    Generally in the brigade level, each unit has a sign that represents it and is painted on the armoured vehicles.
    To me it looks like two crossed flags but I'm not familiar with that unit.
    P.s.
    Note that bellow the spair tire you have two lines with letters and numbers.
    Those represents the velocity restrictions for in the city and at the highways. This appears on army vehicles even now days.


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    φιθεθ πλϊα αξχεψ ςμ ιγι erezgur φτιδ αδεγςδ
    This is the correct picture:



    https://www.zbrane-kspol.cz/box-na-n...-m2a1-pouzity/
    (Your link was broken).

    πωμη ξδπιιγ
    erez this is the 50 Cal box

    He needs the 30 Cal

    https://www.google.com/search?q=m19a...obile&ie=UTF-8



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